OUR WHY

At NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, we believe this next chapter of life can be the most exciting, fulfilling, and empowering.

We're a community; we're a space for women to connect, share, learn, and grow together. Here. we talk about what truly matters, break down taboos, and tackle the issues that shape our lives.

As Gen Xers and Baby Boomers transition into retirement – or opt not to retire at all – we're here to support you through every new chapter. This is your time to live fully.

What makes a Fulfilling NEXT CHPTR?

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PAT BROWNE

CREATOR AND HOST

After a career in advertising, retirement felt like a blank page. No map. No guide. Just questions.

What now? How do we age with purpose, joy, and vitality? That’s why I started NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ – to explore how we make this our best chapter yet. For me. For all of us.

ABOUT PAT

PENELOPE MATHIESON

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HOST

At 70, I’m not fading – I’m just getting louder.
Retirement stripped away the title, the routine, the purpose. So I built something new.

NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ is more than a podcast – it’s a movement for women ready to redefine aging, reclaim meaning, and write a next chapter that’s bold, brilliant, and completely our own.

ABOUT PENELOPE

THE NEW OLD AGE STARTS NOW.

At what point did we decide growth has an expiration date?

This week, it’s just us, Pat + Penelope, talking out loud about what so many women carry quietly: ageism, identity, confidence, and what “successful aging” actually looks like in real life.
We come back to the 3 pillars we believe change everything:
Health. Community. Purpose.

Not as pressure. As power.

One question to sit with this week:
Which pillar needs your attention right now, and what’s one small choice you can make today?
🎧 Listen now (link in bio / in comments)

#NextChptrChats #TheNewOldAge #ProAging #WomenOver50 #Purpose #Community #HealthyAging #Ageism

We don’t “age out.”

We get edited out. By workplaces. By culture. Sometimes by ourselves.

New episode: Pat + Penelope on the hidden ways ageism shows up… and what we can do about it without pretending aging is easy.

World renowned author and nutritionist, Marion Nestle, joins me to help us understand the food industry and what it means to each of us today. New Episode out now. Listen at nextchptrchats or wherever you get your podcasts from.

“I used to know what to eat… now I don’t.”
If that’s you: you’re not failing. You’re navigating a system designed to sell, not nourish.
New NEXT CHPTR CHATS episode with Marion Nestle. The supermarket is not neutral.

NEW EPISODE OUT TODAY.

Ultra-processed isn’t about being “good” or “bad.” It’s about understanding what’s engineered to make you eat more… without realizing it.

New Episode out Monday will change how you read a package in 10 seconds flat. 🎙️

You know that moment in the grocery store where you just… freeze?

You used to feel confident. Now every box screams “healthy,” “protein,” “plant-based,” “good for you”… and you walk out feeling more confused than when you walked in.

This episode is for women 50+ who are over the guilt, over the noise, and over blaming themselves.

🎙️ I’m joined by Marion Nestle, one of the most respected voices in nutrition and public health, to talk about what’s really going on in the food system… and why eating feels harder than it used to.

A few truths that landed hard:
• The supermarket is not neutral.
• Most front-of-pack “health” language is marketing.
• Ultra-processed isn’t a moral issue. It’s a design issue.
• Your first move isn’t restriction… it’s clarity.
If you’ve been thinking, “I used to know what to eat… now I don’t,” hit play.
Then tell me: what’s the most confusing aisle for you right now?

#NextChptrChats #WomenOver50 #MenopauseWellness #NutritionTruth #FoodSystem #UltraProcessedFoods #MidlifeHealth #SmartAging

We talk a lot about intimacy.
We talk far less about why it quietly disappears.

After Episode 1, many listeners told us the same thing:
“I didn’t realize how much silence was costing us.”

Silence around desire.
Silence around needs.
Silence around what feels uncomfortable to say out loud.

In Part 2, we go there.

Not with shock value.
With honesty, safety, and respect for how relationships actually work after 50.

If Episode 1 helped you understand why intimacy fades, Episode 2 is about what happens when couples finally start talking again.

Coming up next Monday on NEXT CHPTR CHATS™.

Great sex after 50 isn’t about chemistry.

It’s about feeling safe enough to say what you actually need.
That’s where Part 2 of this conversation goes.

In today’s episode of NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, host Penelope Mathieson and psychotherapist Dan Rutley talk openly about desire, silence, and why avoiding conversations about sex doesn’t protect intimacy, it slowly erodes it.

This isn’t about techniques or performance.
It’s about communication, emotional safety, and the honesty that makes intimacy better, not more awkward, as we age.

If you’ve ever felt like there was more you wanted to say but didn’t know how, this episode is for you.

🎙️ Season 5, Episode 2
📅 Airs today on SAUGA 960 AM
🎧 Podcast available after broadcast

Better sex starts with better communication.

Don't miss Episode 2 of intimacy, sex and conversations. Penelope Mathieson speaks frankly with psychotherapist Dan Rutley about what it takes to have better sex after 50. Tune in Monday on SAUGA960 AM or listen wherever you get your podcasts from.

Most couples don’t lose intimacy because they stop caring.
They lose it because certain conversations never feel safe enough to start.

That’s what Part 2 is really about.
Not fixing.
Not performing.

But learning how to talk about desire, needs, and sex in a way that brings you closer instead of pushing you apart.

If Episode 1 helped you see what’s missing,
this episode helps you understand what to do next.

🎙️ NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ — Part 2
📅 Monday, January 12 on SAUGA 960 AM
🎧 Podcast available after broadcast

Because better sex doesn’t come from guessing.
It comes from conversation.

Here’s the truth most couples never hear:
Avoiding conversations about sex doesn’t protect intimacy.
It slowly erodes it.

That’s where Part 2 of this conversation begins.

We’re talking about desire, emotional safety, and what it really takes to have better sex after 50, not through chemistry or performance, but through communication.

If Episode 1 made you pause,
Episode 2 might make you braver.

🎙️ Part 2 airs tomorrow on SAUGA 960 AM
🎧 Podcast available after broadcast

Some conversations change everything once they finally happen.

Emotional.
Hard hitting.
Necessary.

Today’s conversation isn’t about fixing your relationship.
It’s about understanding what’s been quietly missing.

Season 5, Episode 1 of NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ is on air today, and it goes straight to the heart of intimacy, empathy, and emotional safety in long-term relationships.

Host Penelope Mathieson and psychotherapist Dan Rutley talk about why intimacy fades even when love is still there, and what it actually takes to rebuild connection without blame, pressure, or performative communication.

If you’ve been feeling distance but can’t quite name it, this episode may put words to something you’ve been carrying.

🎙️ Airs today on SAUGA 960 AM
📅 Monday, January 5
🎧 Podcast available after broadcast
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Sometimes intimacy doesn’t need more effort. It needs more understanding.

Season 5 doesn’t ease in.

It goes straight to the heart.

Want more intimacy? Start with more empathy.

That’s the conversation opening Episode 1 of Season 5 of NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ and it’s one most couples don’t realize they’re avoiding.

Hosted by Penelope Mathieson, with psychotherapist Dan Rutley, this episode digs into why intimacy fades, not because love is gone, but because empathy quietly disappears under stress, resentment, and miscommunication.

They talk about:
• Why “feeling unheard” is often the real intimacy killer
• How empathy is a skill, not a personality trait
• What to do when conversations turn into defensiveness or distance
• And how connection can be rebuilt without blame or fixing

This isn’t relationship fluff.

It’s honest, practical, and deeply human.

🎙️ Season 5, Episode 1
📅 Airs January 5 on SAUGA 960 AM
🎧 Podcast available after broadcast

If you want deeper connection, this is where it starts.

🎉 HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM NEXT CHPTR CHATS™

2026 marks something big for us.

It’s the beginning of Season 5 and our first full year as a weekly talk radio show on SAUGA 960 AM.

What started as a podcast has grown into a trusted space for real conversations about aging, relationships, health, purpose, and everything that comes with this next chapter of life.
This year, we’re showing up more often, asking better questions, and going deeper into the conversations women actually want to have.

You can hear NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ five times a week on SAUGA 960 AM:
📻 Mondays at 12:00 PM, 4:00 PM, and 8:00 PM
📻 Saturdays at 11:00 AM and 10:00 PM

If you’re new here, welcome.

If you’ve been with us from the beginning, thank you for being part of this community.
Here’s to another year of conversations that matter.

AMAZING NEWS! WE'RE ON THE AIR!
NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ is now on SAUGA 960 AM Talk Radio. Every Monday (starting today) at 3:00 pm, NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ will have a 1 hour program. Starting October 20th, NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ conversations, dedicated to helping women find their best next chapter, will be on SAUGA 960 AM every Monday at 3:00 pm and then again at 7:00 pm and then on Saturday at 10:00 pm.

This is so exciting for us. NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ has enjoyed a loyal and growing following over the last 3 seasons, but now with a listenership of over 300,000 people, the conversations are just going to get bigger, better, and bolder. Don't forget to tune in SAUGA 960 AM.

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🌟💬 Happy International Friendship Day from Next Chptr Chats! 💬🌟

Friendships are the heartbeats of our journeys, and as women 50+, we know that true friends are the foundation of every chapter of life. 💖 Whether it’s sharing laughs, supporting each other through challenges, or celebrating new beginnings, friendships only grow deeper with time.

At Next Chptr Chats, we’re all about connecting, learning, and inspiring each other to embrace the next chapter with open hearts – and that’s made possible because of the incredible friends we have by our side. 👯♀️✨

Take a moment today to celebrate those friendships—old and new. Tag a friend who’s been your rock, your cheerleader, or your partner-in-crime. 🫶 Who has made your journey a little sweeter?

What if retirement wasn’t the end — but the beginning of your most powerful chapter yet?

That’s the question behind NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, the podcast hosted by Pat Browne and Penelope Mathieson.

We created this show for women 50+ who are:
• Questioning who they are after career titles and caregiving roles fade
• Searching for relevance, voice, and community
• Not ready to “wind down” – because there’s still so much to give

In Season 3’s kickoff episode, we unpack our own stories of reinvention – the loneliness, the ageism, and the bold decision to start again.

🎧 If you’re a woman in her 50s, 60s or beyond (or someone who cares about one), I’d love for you to listen and share.

Because this next chapter isn’t about aging – It’s about becoming.

🔗 Listen on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts

🍦✨ Happy National Vanilla Ice Cream Day from NEXT CHPTR CHATS™! ✨🍦

Here’s the thing: as women 50+, we’re all about reimagining what’s possible in the next chapter – and sometimes, the simple pleasures are where the magic happens. 💬💖

Just like the comforting sweetness of vanilla ice cream, life is often about savouring the little things. Whether it’s reflecting on where we’ve been or dreaming about where we’re going, there’s beauty in the simplicity of enjoying a scoop of your favourite flavour. 🍨

Vanilla might be classic, but it's also incredibly versatile – just like us! How are you making the next chapter of your life uniquely yours? ✨ Tell us how you're embracing the little joys and big changes. And remember, life can be as sweet as your favorite ice cream! 🍫🍓

“This isn’t about aging. It’s about becoming.”

“We’re the first generation of women with power, privilege, and platforms. Now what?”
– Penelope Mathieson

“Retirement isn’t the end. It’s a rewrite.”
– Pat Browne

We’re not fading out — we’re just getting started.
That’s the idea behind NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, the podcast for bold, brilliant women navigating life after 50.
Hosted by Pat Browne and Penelope Mathieson, each episode tackles the big questions women face in this chapter:
• Who am I without my title?
• How do I find relevance and connection again?
• What does purpose look like now?
In our premiere episode of Season 3, we share our personal stories of reinvention, the reality of feeling invisible, and how women like you are rewriting what “retirement” means.

🎧 Available now on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you listen.

Hi Penelope, here’s the link for Season 3, Episode 1 https://youtu.be/4hZ8XBOa1wM

NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ is the podcast made for women 50+ who are navigating life after career, after caregiving, after the “shoulds.” What happens when you still want purpose, power, and connection — but the world thinks you’re “done”? We're not slowing down. We're not fading out. And we’re definitely not finished. In this episode we talk about what “retirement” really means (spoiler: it’s not an end), and how we’re finding voice, visibility, and meaning — all over again.

✨ What if “retirement” wasn’t an ending – but a reinvention?

In Episode 1 of Season 3 NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, we’re talking identity, invisibility, and the radical idea that your best chapter may just be your next one.
🎙️ Hosted by Pat Browne & Penelope Mathieson
🔥 This is the podcast for women who aren’t done growing – they’re just getting started.
🎧 Link in bio to listen now

A truly wonderful Canada Day Celebration 🇨🇦 🎉

🍁 Oh Canada, Oh Community.
Today, we celebrate the land we call home — with all its beauty, diversity, and possibility.

But Canada Day is also a time to reflect. To honour Indigenous voices, recognize our shared histories, and commit to a future built on respect, inclusion, and truth.

At NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, we believe in rewriting the script — not just for women 50+, but for how we show up as citizens, neighbours, and changemakers.

So here’s to red and white — and to every shade of lived experience in between.
Here’s to community, courage, and creating our next chapter, together. 🇨🇦

Happy Canada Day everyone.
Let’s keep growing — with open hearts and bold voices.

#NextChptrChats #CanadaDay #Women50Plus #NextChapterStrong #AgingWithPurpose #TruthAndReconciliation #CanadianWomen #OhCanada #DiverseVoicesStrongVoices

🇨🇦🏳️🌈 Proud to Be Seen. Proud to Belong.
This Pride Month — and every month — we stand in celebration of love, identity, and the freedom to be fully ourselves.

At NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, we believe there’s no expiration date on authenticity. Whether you came out at 20 or 60, whether you’re just discovering your truth or have lived it boldly for decades — your story matters.

To our 2SLGBTQIA+ sisters and allies across Canada:
You are part of the heartbeat of our next chapter.
We honour your courage, your joy, your resilience — and your right to age with pride, dignity, and connection.

Let’s keep writing new stories. Together.
Happy Pride, Canada. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

NEXT CHPTR CHATS™ can be found wherever you get your podcasts from.

I’m introducing myself. It seems appropriate. I am so excited to be part of NEXT CHPTR CHATS, it’s a conversation that needs to be had. Tune in every other week for a new podcast. And we’re now on YouTube. Visit our channel @nextchptrchats-pp

👯‍♀️ Two Voices. One Bold Mission.

You’ve met us individually — now meet us together.

We’re the co-hosts of NEXT CHPTR CHATS™, and at 66 and 60-something, we’re not slowing down — we’re just getting loud-er, braver, and bolder. 🎙️🔥

We’re Pat & Penelope — friends, collaborators, and co-conspirators in rewriting the rules of what it means to age as women.

Between us, we bring a whole lot of curiosity, compassion, wit, wisdom, and let's be honest... some serious side-eye for out-dated narratives.

This season, we’re diving into conversations that matter — from health and purpose to money, relationships, reinvention, and everything in between.

If you’re ready to step into your own Next Chapter with joy, confidence, and a little bit of funk, you’re in the right place.

Come sit with us. We saved you a seat. 💛

#NextChptrChats #WomenOver55 #DynamicDuos #PodcastHosts #RedefiningAging #BoldConversations #RealTalkRealWomen #ThisIsWhat60sLookLike

📣 PSA: You’re not late. You’re not behind.
You’re just in the middle of your becoming—and honestly, it looks good on you.

👉 Want to see more Monday Musing? Please like and share!

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #BecomingNotBehind #RightOnTime

You’re Not Too Late. You’re Right On Time.

Let’s rewrite the story of aging.

Forget the old narrative.
🌀 You’re not fading.
🌀 You’re not irrelevant.
🌀 You’re not too late.

This chapter? It’s yours to shape — with strength, community, and purpose.

And it all starts with one brave choice:
Today is DAY ONE.
Are you in?

💛 Join us @nextchptrchats as we age boldly, together.

#NextChptrChats #WomenOver50 #SecondActStrong #AgingRedefined #BoldMidlife

Purpose Is the Secret Sauce

You don’t need to be busy. You need to feel ALIVE.

That’s the difference between just aging… and aging well.

Purpose is your anchor. Your reason to get up in the morning.

Whether it’s: 🌱 Gardening
🧒 Helping with grandkids
🎨 Creating art
🤝 Volunteering
🧠 Starting a new project

It doesn’t need to be big. It just needs to mean something to you.

📣 What gives you purpose right now? Drop it in the comments—your answer might inspire someone else.

#PurposefulLiving #NextChptrPurpose #WomenWithVision

The biggest thing protecting your brain right now isn’t a crossword puzzle… it’s PEOPLE.

A positive mindset and strong connections lower dementia risk—even if you have a genetic predisposition.

But community?
👯‍♀️ It’s cognitive armour.

Whether it’s gym friends, brunch buddies, or your book club crew… connection matters.
Every text, hug, or heart-to-heart keeps your brain sharp and your spirit full.

💛 Tag a friend who makes your brain (and heart) feel alive.

#ConnectionIsMedicine #CognitiveHealth #WomenSupportingWomen

Today, we celebrate the earth—the ground beneath us, the air around us, the wild beauty that reminds us to slow down, breathe deeply, and reconnect.

🌱 Earth Day isn’t just about nature—it’s about nurture.
The way we care for the planet mirrors how we care for ourselves, our communities, and our future.

So today, we invite you to:
✨ Take a mindful walk.
✨ Plant something with intention.
✨ Pick up a piece of litter.
✨ Pause long enough to say thank you to the world around you.

Because growth, like healing, starts in small steps. 🌼
And every choice we make is a chance to honor where we are—and where we’re going.
Tell us: what’s one thing you do to care for the planet and yourself?

👉 Want to see more reflections like this? Please like and share!

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #EarthDay #GroundedAndGrowing #CareIsPower #NextChapterPlanet #SustainableSoul

📅 Monday isn’t your enemy—it’s just your weekly reminder that you’ve already started.
You’re not starting over. You’re leveling up.
Let’s keep the momentum going. 🚀

👉 Want to see more Monday Musing? Please like and share!

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #MondayMindset #AlreadyBecoming

If you lose your mobility, you lose your freedom.

That’s why movement is pillar #1 of aging well.
Not perfection.
Not burpees.
Just consistent, intentional movement.

– Walk
– Dance
– Lift soup cans
– Stretch in bed
– Carry groceries like they’re weights 💪

The key?
✨ Weight-bearing exercise protects your strength, bones, and balance.
You don’t need to love it.
You just need to do it anyway.

🎯 Save this post as your daily reminder.

#MoveMore #StrongNotStill #NextChptrHealth

🌷Happy Easter from NEXT CHPTR CHATS!

Today’s vibe:
✨ Fresh starts
✨ Gentle growth
✨ And maybe just one more chocolate egg… okay, two. 🍫😄

This season is all about renewal—not perfection. So whether you're blooming like a spring flower or still defrosting from winter, you're exactly where you're meant to be.

💛 Here's to soft resets, joyful moments, and cracking open possibilities like... well, like a mini egg.

Take it slow, laugh a little, and remember you don’t need to have it all figured out to start fresh. Just start—fluffy socks, coffee, and all.

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #HappyEaster #FreshStartEnergy #MiniEggMindset #YourNextChapter #NotInARushJustBlooming

You were today years old when you realized “One day…” is a lie we’ve been sold.

Here’s the truth:
👉 There is no perfect time. No magical motivation coming to save you.

There’s just today.
And today is DAY ONE.

I just got back to the gym after a month off. Between the flu and life, it was way too easy to stay on the couch.
But movement isn’t about motivation.
It’s about choosing the life you want to live.

💬 What’s one “one day” you’ve been putting off?
Let’s call it out. Let’s start today.

#NextChptrChats #WomenOver50 #DayOneNotOneDay #AgingWell

Today is your official permission slip to laugh at the little things – including that one meme you’ve already sent to 3 people. 😅💬

Whether it’s a snort-laugh, a giggle-fit, or one of those silent wheezes that turns into a full-body workout… we’re here for it.

💛 Laughter is medicine.
💛 Laughter is connection.
💛 Laughter is proof you’re still in the moment.

So go ahead – laugh loudly, laugh often, laugh until your face hurts.

And if you’ve got a go-to video or inside joke that always cracks you up, drop it below 👇
Let’s turn this feed into a joyfest.

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #MomentOfLaughterDay #LaughItOut #JoyIsContagious #FeelGoodFuel

As Passover begins, we’re reflecting on the beauty of release, renewal, and the freedom to grow into who we are becoming.

This season is a powerful reminder:
💛 Letting go can be sacred.
💛 Every chapter you’ve outgrown has brought you closer to alignment.
💛 And freedom? Sometimes it looks like finally choosing yourself.

Whether you’re gathering with loved ones, honoring tradition, or simply taking a moment to pause—may this time bring clari-ty, peace, and the courage to move forward with intention.
Here’s to liberation in all its forms—big and small.

Chag Sameach from all of us at NEXT CHPTR CHATS. 🌿

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #PassoverReflections #NewBeginnings #FreedomToBecome #ChagSameach #YourNextChapter

It’s Hug Your Dog Day – aka the official holiday of fur therapy, tail wags, and unconditional love. 🐶💛

Whether your pup is a tiny tornado of energy or a snuggly old soul, today’s the perfect excuse to pause, cuddle, and say, “Thanks for being the best part of my day.”

📸 Drop a pic of your pup in the comments—we want to see the real stars of your next chapter!
Bonus points if you caught a mid-hug moment. 😍🐾

Because honestly? Sometimes the best therapists have four legs, a wet nose, and zero judgment.
👉 Want more good vibes like this? Please like and share!

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #HugYourDogDay #FurBabyTherapy #DogsAreFamily #NextChapterWithPaws

💥Spoiler alert: No one has it all figured out. And guess what? That’s not a requirement.
Take the step. Make the move. Let courage be your co-pilot today.
👣 Your next chapter starts when you stop waiting for perfect.

👉 Want to see more Monday Musing? Please like and share!

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #ImperfectlyBrave #CourageIsTheNewPlan

✨ We’re not on the air right now, but we are still here – growing, reflecting, and getting ready for something amazing. 💬 Season 3 of NEXT CHPTR CHATS is coming this May, and we promise, it’ll be worth the wait.

Until then, we’re keeping the convo going right here with weekly sparks of inspiration to help you navigate your next chapter—because transformation doesn’t stop between seasons. 💛
📅 Mark your calendar.
🎙️ Season 3. May.
🧡 Let’s keep growing—together.

#NEXTCHPTRCHATS #YourNextChapter #Season3ComingSoon #TransformationInProgress #FearlessAtEveryAge #StayTuned

We are coming back and bigger and better than ever. But life gets in the way. We are paused for a couple of weeks. Look for a relaunch of Season 3 the beginning of May.

#womenempowerment #nextchptrchats #midlifereinvention #antiagism #givingback #women50plusandfabulous #womenempoweringwomen #womensupportingwomen

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